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Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:38 AM (permalink)

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I am trying to figure out which would be the cheapest and most for my money. Remember I do have a sammy body and frame. Modifying is not a problem. Here are the 4 link kits out there I have found.

The first pic...Gen Right is $1200.00 with no coils or shocks

The second is the Trail Gear installed

The third is Poly Performance weld on 4 link....no springs or shocks $1100.00

The fourth is Rocky Road outfitters Samurai rear link kit with springs and shocks

The fifth is Rocky Road outfitters samurai front and rear total kit...I dont need it. Just a pic to see the rear parts.

The 6th is Trail Gears Trail Link. This one comes with shock mounts but no springs or shocks $950.00

The 7th is Trail Gear with the fox 2.0 is $1200.00

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texasfrog Total Posts : 203 Reward points : 12 Joined: 6/12/2005 Location: Conroe,Tx Status: offline	Reply to message Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:00 AM (permalink) 0 7th-great deal, good design.
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i5sfe Total Posts : 679 Reward points : 123 Joined: 1/5/2009 Location: Irving Status: offline	Reply to message Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:37 AM (permalink) 0 I was looking at some 3link kits for my truck, I just wish it was in the 600-700 price range. It's hard to drop over 1K for a kit. But at least you know someone took the time to get the geometry right (or at least close). Ryan Swift - 84 Toyota Truck
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Cliffwalker Total Posts : 117 Reward points : 130 Joined: 3/3/2008 Location: TEXAS Status: offline	Reply to message Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:23 AM (permalink) 0 I would have to agree with Mark. Go with #7. The airshocks alone are worth $400.00 and it looks to be a decent design with some adjustability. Let's not leave out the fact that it's designed for the sammy. All good things come from TEXAS
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Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:29 AM (permalink)

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The #7 does seem like a good plan. The design is ment for a Toyota truck actually. I will have to shorten the width on the cross member. Like I said there will be a bit of modification going on.

#4 and #5 are the rocky road outfitters design. This is for the samurai. The others are universal, Toyota or Jeep.

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MoneyPit Total Posts : 823 Reward points : 46 Joined: 1/17/2008 Location: Wade Kasper Status: offline	Reply to message Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:43 AM (permalink) 0 I found another set-up. This one is $450 bucks! It is 1.5" x 3/16 DOM. It is a bit lighter diamiter, but would work right? Attached Image(s) Wade Kasper Money Pit Perfect 1000
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MoneyPit Total Posts : 823 Reward points : 46 Joined: 1/17/2008 Location: Wade Kasper Status: offline	Reply to message Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:51 AM (permalink) 0 This one is even Cheaper with 1.5" x 1/4 wall tubing at the price of $380.00 Attached Image(s) Wade Kasper Money Pit Perfect 1000
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MoneyPit Total Posts : 823 Reward points : 46 Joined: 1/17/2008 Location: Wade Kasper Status: offline	Reply to message Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:51 AM (permalink) 0 here is the link to the last one http://thecustomconnectiononline.com/super-pivot-4-link-p-960.html?osCsid=d01eb1185fa2acd94edeb957902767ca Wade Kasper Money Pit Perfect 1000
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MoneyPit Total Posts : 823 Reward points : 46 Joined: 1/17/2008 Location: Wade Kasper Status: offline	Reply to message Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:55 AM (permalink) 0 Here is another...... KP Components @ $325.00 I dont like the axle brackets, but they can be cut to work. There is no say in tube size. Attached Image(s) Wade Kasper Money Pit Perfect 1000
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chansuke Total Posts : 104 Reward points : 43 Joined: 7/22/2007 Location: Arlington Status: offline	Reply to message Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:38 PM (permalink) 0 Im not really a Trail Gear fan to be honest. --Channing Ramos Everyone should own a jeep. That way, when they buy a Toyota they can really enjoy it. '94 Samurai. With stuff. Those who wont use violence are subject to thos
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Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:54 PM (permalink)

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I went to poly performance to see about building the link set-up myself.

Look how much the 8 joints would be for a triangulated set-up. Remember....this is only the joints!!!!

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Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:02 PM (permalink)

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Well, you did pick the most expensive ends on the website. Why not use some static ends on one end of the tube, and then the adjustable ones on the other. You will have to adjust them before install, but its cheaper. Or you could use 2 static ends per tube and just work harder on the math

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MoneyPit Total Posts : 823 Reward points : 46 Joined: 1/17/2008 Location: Wade Kasper Status: offline	Reply to message Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:04 PM (permalink) 0 Ya I kinda **** at math...... Wade Kasper Money Pit Perfect 1000
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MoneyPit Total Posts : 823 Reward points : 46 Joined: 1/17/2008 Location: Wade Kasper Status: offline	Reply to message Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:12 PM (permalink) 0 I am still leaning toward the Rocky-Road set-up. Mianly because of fit for the samurai frame and it comes complete. Ready to weld on and hit the trail for $950.00 bucks. The only thing is the "Y" upper link. How does that perform compared to the triangulated 4 link? Wade Kasper Money Pit Perfect 1000
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MoneyPit Total Posts : 823 Reward points : 46 Joined: 1/17/2008 Location: Wade Kasper Status: offline	Reply to message Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:13 PM (permalink) 0 The rocky road set-up comes with 1.5" dom 1/4 wall and Currie joints. Not bad. Wade Kasper Money Pit Perfect 1000
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Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:25 PM (permalink)

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Rocky Road also specializes in Sami stuff, so it should be fairly easy, but ive heard some mixed stories about their shipping practices.

And a 4 Link would be stronger. More redundancy.

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MoneyPit Total Posts : 823 Reward points : 46 Joined: 1/17/2008 Location: Wade Kasper Status: offline	Reply to message Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Thursday, July 08, 2010 3:33 PM (permalink) 0 ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE?????? triangulated or Y upper design? The Y upper is a bit more giving to the not so bright engineering. There is less to bind up if you dont do it right...correct? Wade Kasper Money Pit Perfect 1000
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Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Friday, July 09, 2010 12:03 AM (permalink)

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im gonna go with a isuzu trooper rear axle I got my hands on because its already set up for a three link from the factory and has disc brakes and its a third member style. I will build my own links out of dom and heavy duty heims. now I just need a suzuki sidekick to put it in and my old 44 will go up front temporarily.

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Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Friday, July 09, 2010 9:15 AM (permalink)

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ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE??????

triangulated or Y upper design?

The Y upper is a bit more giving to the not so bright engineering. There is less to bind up if you dont do it right...correct?

The upper Y is basically only there to help keep the axle centered and to prevent axle wrap. It is effectively the same as the two seperate arms. The big difference is that it's a single joint so you need to be sure to have high misalignment spacers and a uber strong mount. This is all assuming that the lowers are triangulated, if not that changes a lot of the force loads and how they are gonna effect the vehicle.

If you want to build your own I do have the 4-link calculator I can try to email ya.

http://www.crawlinforcrohns.org/

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Re:Rear 4 Link Set-up Friday, July 09, 2010 9:27 AM (permalink)

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Please do. I have a stick of 1" x 1/4 wall DOM sitting on the shelf. I know it is a bit small, but it is free. I just need to find johny joints to fit. Maybe I can buy a tap and get the 1.25" johny joints. Tap the dom and that way I dont have to buy a tube adapter.

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