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January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Friday, January 15, 2010 8:57 AM (permalink)
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Let me start by saying that I am an amateur in a lot of ways but have found several products I've liked or disliked over the years.  I was not born into a gear head family (I think I was adopted) so I've had to teach myself anything I've learned. 

What coatings do you like or [dislike from experience] to use on your work pieces?  What cleaners, solvents, paints, stains, glues, silicons, chemicals do you use most often?   Which ones do you buy at the store, and don't regret plopping down the $8 bucks or so, just because they work really well?

I'll start:

For frame/bumper/hardmount things I've used:

* Silver Sharpie - easy to see on steel and painted workpieces, for marking measurements, notes, and cuts.
* Walmarts no-brand .97 black glossy spray paint - Used based on the recommendation from a friend.  Would not use again.
* Rustoleum - Hammered Black - I used that a lot on my last jeep and really liked the finish.  Typical spray can finish though, not too strong.
* Rustoleum - Matte black - I like to use this for frame pieces now, because it blends perfectly with the oem coating on the frame.
* Rustoleum - Truck Undercoating Spray - Just used this for the first time.  So far i like the finish.  I was skeptical about it before hand.
It performed far better than the last time I tried to use rattle can undercoating.  I could see using this on bumpers, cages, etc.  I am not 100% sure about using it for the interior, but I am anxious to see how it holds up. 
* Duplicolor - They have some undercoating products but i've not used them.  Have you?
* Herculiner - I bought their roll-on kit about 4 years ago, and coated the grill of the '97 TJ i used to drive.  I was impressed with the results, given the low cost, but it is difficult to get an even coat.  You must thoroughly clean and scuff the area to be coated, and never apply it to a vertical surface, because it will slide off before it dries.
* Linex - Had this put on the floor of the Waggy.  Tough stuff but danged expensive.  What are the best DIY alternatives?  I do not know.

Body Touch-Up:
* Duplicolor - Chrysler Silver - Body touch up kit - Wow, these things have improved a lot since the late '80s, the last time I checked them out.  Blends much easier i think. Wally world has them.  This is also an excellent way to permanently mark on a dark surface I've found, where sharpies and paint markers did not suffice.

Oddball things:
* Rustoleum - Camo - O.D. Green - Ultra Matte - I love this color.  You never really get the military completely out of your system.  I use this anywhere I want. I even refinished my home mail box in it and really liked the results.  Easy to apply even coats.  Reasonably priced at wally world, and comes with the better spray nozzles.
* WD-40 - Removes white marker paint from the side of Tony's F-250.  I am a believer now.  I really like the new smart straw nozzle too.  That was a good idea.
* Brake Cleaner - duh.
* Zymol - Used to be ultra high end car wax (1980's) marketed for Porsches, Ferrari's, Lamborghinis, Mercedes, you get the picture.  Now a version of it is available in stores and it is a good wax for a high end finish.  I am sure there are better ones out there.  I haven't waxed my junk in 100 years.

Wood:
* Gel Stains - I've heard about them for years, and tried to get into them, but have reverted to solvent or water based stains.  I then like to seal the wood with a lacquer based coating to give it some shine and protection.
* Oils - I've tried linseed oil on a hardwood gunstock and had decent results. 
* What have you used?  Anyone ever used Shellac?  I am interested in trying that on a project.
* Minwax Ebony Stain - Water Based - applied to knotty pine.  Looks really cool.


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    Squeaky

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    RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Friday, January 15, 2010 12:22 PM (permalink)
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    Zymol is awsome stuff. Dang expensive but really good wax. I had a big bottle of the blue liquid, no longer available though. They only have the blue creame wax now but I'm sure it is just as good. Easy to apply, easy to buff out (other than the recommended second pass wet buff) and it smells really good too.
     
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      RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Monday, January 18, 2010 4:54 PM (permalink)
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        for some stuff that I want to look good but last along time I have used the engine  hi heat paint, it appears to be very strong and can take the elements on. 
      David Taylor 95xj Detroit in the rear, Detroit truetrac in the front and 4.10 gears. 03kj
       
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        RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Monday, January 18, 2010 9:31 PM (permalink)
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        PB Blaster.  Far better than any penetrating lube on the market.  It puts WD-40 to shame in that arena (though WD-40 is still useful)

        Simple Green.  Great all purpose cleaner/degreaser (among other products) that is biodegradable.

        Tropicare - great car wax system that is easier to use than a lot of the multi-stage systems with a shine that is as good and lasts as long.

        Duplicolor or even Rustoleum rattle can paints.  Great for covering up scratches on your wheeling rig to prevent rust when you don't really care about getting a color match coat.  Also great for painting your trail rig after you replace all the rust when you don't care about getting a show quality finish.
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          RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Monday, January 18, 2010 10:01 PM (permalink)
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          PB Blaster for sure
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            RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:19 AM (permalink)
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            ORIGINAL: Squeaky

            PB Blaster for sure

             
            That is now the 4th recommendation I've heard in a month from people whose opinion I would trust.
             
            Think I'll have to get a can.  But I will still keep the WD40 for removing white marker paint from the side of Tony's truck.
             
             
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              RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:21 AM (permalink)
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              Roy, your avatar is friggin awesome.
               
              Animal is cool but Grover is the best muppet.
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                RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:25 AM (permalink)
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                ORIGINAL: Creepy


                ORIGINAL: Squeaky

                PB Blaster for sure


                That is now the 4th recommendation I've heard in a month from people whose opinion I would trust.

                Think I'll have to get a can.  But I will still keep the WD40 for removing white marker paint from the side of Tony's truck.




                WD-40 is still a good thing to have as a compliment to PB Blaster.


                And Animal is cool too.
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                  RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:28 PM (permalink)
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                  IVE USED SEVERAL TYPES AND BRANDS OF BLACK PAINT. THE SPRAY PAINTS ALWAYS TEND TO PEEL OFF WHEN MUD SETS ON IT AWHILE. I FINALLY TRIED THE RUSTOLEUM PIPE AND FENCE PAINT IN THE QUART CAN. IT IS A BRUSH ON AND IT COVERS EXCELLENT. NO NEED TO TAPE OFF FOR OVER SPRAY. I CAN DO MY WHOLE CAGE IN AN HOUR WITH THIS VERSUS 3 HOURS MASKING AND PAINTING AND STILL MAKING A MESS WITH AEROSOL CANS. AND IT DOESNT PEEL LIKE THE SPRAY EITHER.
                   
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                    RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:07 PM (permalink)
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                    pb blaster is the best, spray it on broken bolts before using an easy out or on the bolt before you break it. also like tuff stuff fabric cleaner for those supper nasty fabric stains
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                      RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:15 PM (permalink)
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                        Yep used pb blaster over several days to loosen up stuff before.  febreze and dryer sheets to take out the musty smell in the truck. 
                      David Taylor 95xj Detroit in the rear, Detroit truetrac in the front and 4.10 gears. 03kj
                       
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                        RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:12 PM (permalink)
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                        Ran across this a couple of months ago while looking for something at work.  Quite interesting. The Mysterious Powers of WD-40
                         
                        http://www.macrondynamics.com/blog/wd40-353
                         
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                          RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:03 AM (permalink)
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                          ORIGINAL: Squeaky

                          Ran across this a couple of months ago while looking for something at work.  Quite interesting. The Mysterious Powers of WD-40

                          http://www.macrondynamics.com/blog/wd40-353


                           
                          "Cleans shower doors, plastic or glass"  - I am going to try this when I get home.  So, WD-40 IS Rocket Science.
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                            RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:11 PM (permalink)
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                            ORIGINAL: Squeaky

                            Ran across this a couple of months ago while looking for something at work.  Quite interesting. The Mysterious Powers of WD-40

                            http://www.macrondynamics.com/blog/wd40-353



                            I would like to see the scientific evidence on a few far out ideas...

                            "Folks even spray it on their arms, hands, and knees to relieve arthritis pain."
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                              RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:14 PM (permalink)
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                              Well, Ryan, I don't have any "scientific evidence" but I can tell you that I personally know of someone that actually did apply WD-40 topically for arthritis relief.  Whether or not said person was related to me is neither here nor there...
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                                RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:03 AM (permalink)
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                                Zerk fittings on my joints....a great idea.  
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                                  RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:26 PM (permalink)
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                                  PB-Blaster is the bomb!!

                                  Black Magic Tire Wet is awesome too. Not only for your tires but anything plastic or anything black, Also use it on leather or vinyl upholstery. This is the secret ingredient that makes people think my Jeep is brand new even though its older than ****!
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                                    RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:53 PM (permalink)
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                                     I am surprised Matt did not say this but a very important item to carry...a camera to prove you did it or blackmail someone who didn't 
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                                      RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:38 PM (permalink)
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                                      I think for wheeling at gilmer you almost need a "gilmer only camera" cause its going to get ruined!
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                                        RE: January '10 - Tech Topic of the Month Friday, January 22, 2010 4:52 AM (permalink)
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                                        That is why I only bring the point and shoot and not my slr. 
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